Could not have been more disappointed. Had an older and substantially padded, pair of EVS riding shorts that finally started falling apart so i thought i would get the latest and greatest pair. You would be better off putting some tissues in a pair of boxers and saving yourself $50. Pretty much no crotch padding, and the protection pads are laughable, I cant imagine how anybody would be pleased with these. I ended up getting the Klim tactical shorts and am very happy with those.