I ordered these with the intention of using them solely as shorts on outside of my gear during the hot summer days. I found out that the netting is very burlesque and decided to wear some mountain bike shorts over them which worked fine. I was planning to send them back, since the mediums were really snug on my thighs. But, I wanted to ride and needed some protection. I'm glad I had them on. I found whoops with loose dirt and lost my front wheel. I had a nice get off and fell on my hip which left an impression of the padding, which later turned to a cool looking net bruise. I rode the next day with no issues in the pads. If I didn't have them on, I don't think I would be back on the bike so soon.